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title: BTM180 - The Psychology of Saving Private Ryan — Psycharmor
description: On today’s episode, we feature a conversation that first aired on the Head Space and Timing Podcast on the Psychology of Saving Private Ryan. Dr. Katie Gordon and Dr. Brandon Saxton, hosts of the Jedi Counsel Podcast, join me to explore the film Saving Private Ryan through a mental health and psycho
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# [BTM180 - The Psychology of Saving Private Ryan — Psycharmor](https://psycharmor.org/podcast/gordon-and-saxton)

 Written by [Emma Atherall](https://psycharmor.org/podcast/author/emma-atherall) | Aug 6, 2024 7:00:00 AM

**About Today’s Guest**

[**Katie Gordon**](http://kathrynhgordon.com/) has a Ph.D. in clinical psychology. She hopes that the Jedi Counsel Podcast is a fun and interesting way to discuss mental health issues. Her favorite fictional character is Wonder Woman.

**Brandon Saxton** also has a Ph.D. in clinical psychology. He hopes that the Jedi Counsel Podcast will serve as a means to get people thinking about mental health and the way that it can influence anyone either directly or indirectly. His favorite fictional character is Bruce Wayne, aka Batman.

 **PsychArmor Resource of the Week**

The PsychArmor Resource of the week is the PsychArmor course, Inner Conflict & Survivor's Guilt. In this course, Dr. Heidi Kraft describes the concept of moral injury and survivor's guilt in the military and Veteran community. You can see find the course here:  [https://learn.psycharmor.org/courses/inner-conflict-survivor-guilt](https://learn.psycharmor.org/courses/inner-conflict-survivor-guilt).

**Links Mentioned In This Episode**

[The Jedi Counsel Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/2XjOHcLfNRU2hAhjAWx9Jq?si=6eeeba2af0b14f79)

[Article on Moral Injury](https://veteranmentalhealth.com/injury-of-the-soul-moral-injury-and-combat-vets/)

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**Theme Music  
**Our theme music Don’t Kill the Messenger was written and performed by Navy Veteran Jerry Maniscalco, in cooperation with [Operation Encore](https://operationencore.org/), a non profit committed to supporting singer/songwriter and musicians across the military and Veteran communities.

**This Episode Sponsored By:  
**This episode is sponsored by PsychArmor, the premier education and learning ecosystem specializing in military culture content. PsychArmor offers an online e-learning laboratory with custom training options for organizations.

 *Producer and Host Duane France is a retired Army Noncommissioned Officer, combat veteran, and clinical mental health counselor for service members, veterans, and their families.  You can find more about the work that he is doing at *[*www.veteranmentalhealth.com*](http://www.veteranmentalhealth.com)*  *

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